The Text is black are not e-mail but explanations as to the content of the E-mail. 

The actual email is at the bottom and on my Yahoo e- mail -- Remember to read from the bottom to the top as the latest email is on the top. I have reversed and put it in order on the below

 

  
 


E-mail from Dean

Good morning, 

Before we start making any more physical changes (to add or delete or change) to the authority files on the main computer, we must have a clear understanding as to what exact changes we need to make and know what implication that these changes will have on the existing records plus what the work load will be to update these records.  In addition, there is problem of coordinating the use of these new words with the record input people, and their training.   I will be in going to a Main Street meeting  in Marysville all day (Wednesday) and can not work on this with you today.   I am sure you can use a day off .

 There is an Impact meeting between the Board and all of the Committee members at 8:00 on Thursday morning.  I am available to work on the authority files after this Impact meeting, if this will be a good time for you.  If not we can find another time that will work for both of us and not conflict with the data input schedule.  Also, Saturday morning looks good for me.

 Let me know what works best for you,

Dean

 

  
 

Dean,

 Building new Location address in the present  "Storage File" Authority will be hard to locate for me let alone others. This is and  it will not locate quickly by typing two letters. perhaps three letters but that is very difficult and I move only one fast finger on each hand. I was down there this afternoon and think we should get out or that file to build the new ones. . where we have everything now listed will make it very difficult however if we could change the name of "Rooms"  to  "Rooms Division" which might work, We would still have to have about 15 heading in present "Storage File" This will take some more thought and work on the subject.

Ken

  An Explanation, not e-mail

The above may sound a bit confusing if you have no experience with computers. Then there is a second  fact, the file is already loaded with locations which we would have to work around. How DarlAnn eliminated this by deleting  all the files. 

 

  
 
 

Email from Dean

Good Morning |

 I do not have time to work with you  on PP4 today, Saturday morning would be good.  Seems that we are not in agreement with what “clean up” of  the authority files” means.   Developing a new Location Identification system is not minor cleanup, because it will impact all of the base records, and barcode tags that have been completed to date.  In any case, we should not be using the PP4 program on the main computer to develop or check out how things work.  Please stop working and experimenting on the ‘official files” records of the museum.  Too many people have put too much work to risk corrupting these files.   We have to find a better way to get where you think we need to go. 

Dean Rial

 

  
 

  Email to Dean from Ken

Dean
It was not my intention to change any files or their link to Authority files. The intention is  to establish Location Authority files when the present Authority files can be transferred to by by Bryan L. Gomez of PastPerfect. I am not experimenting with the files.  We set up some guide lines on May 3, 2007  as to what we should try to accomplish.  I am trying to follow these guide lines.  Some of us have  spent much time trying to correct files that were either covered  with reinstalling a backup over them which you say was not the case or these were deleted by hand.  Where we had reestablished the Location and other Authorities files with the computer set  on "Notifacation" and checked out each Authority to make sure there was not  spelling errors or such. This took much time and it stopped the warning on the computer where you have the "Continue or Shutdown"  message. I have learned to work through that problem and it is what I would call a self correcting method. You do not need to reinstall a backup to correct.  I am wondering if Dean did write this e-mail as it  does not sound like him after the conversation we and the working relation we had established.  I have done nothing  more than when you (Dean) and Jim Copeland were here.

I will be forwarding this to PastPerfect also. I will also be forwarding some e-mail you most likely have not seen which I told you about.

I have other things to do this morning and will not be at the Museum on Saturday as I will be occupied Saturday with Family and will be Golfing.
 

The above  was my reply however i did not add my name I was not aware of this at the time. You may see the e-mails on the bottom in reverse    order and the latest on the top. E-mail does not copy and past the best as there are many surprises.

One thing Dean and I  did not know at the time of the  writing these e-mails was that the Authority Files, Storage Location had been deleted and were no more. This Storage Location  was now be used for Room location even though Dean I had made some changes to the Authority File named (Rooms) and were planning some more.  I am not sure he knows it now.

 

  

      

 
 

 

  
  Ken

This is me. Our relationship has not changed.  This is not about you or me.  This is about the issue of the best way to manage this data base program.  There is nothing personal.  I would like to keep it that way.  However, this is not the time to correct something that is not broken, just because we think it should be done another way.  We can and should consider improvement, but we at the same time understand the impact of what we have done and include the input and agreement of those people who’s job is to get the information inputted.  There always a better way work a data base, but we have to consider the resources (time, money and people) to make this change.  We are not headed this way right now, and the longer we stay on path, we risk damage to the base file and to our relationship with the other members of the Museum.

Dean

 

  
 

Below is the e-mail as it was copied and pasted to this web page

There are several exchanges as "Reply" which places the first  E-mil on the bottom.
I still have this on my Yahoo E-mail

  

 
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To: "'Ken Stallbaumer'" <kenstall@yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: file clean up
Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 10:59:27 -0500

 

Ken,

 

This is me. Our relationship has not changed.  This is not about you or me.  This is about the issue of the best way to manage this data base program.  There is nothing personal.  I would like to keep it that way.  However, this is not the time to correct something that is not broken, just because we think it should be done another way.  We can and should consider improvement, but we at the same time understand the impact of what we have done and include the input and agreement of those people who’s job is to get the information inputted.  There always a better way work a data base, but we have to consider the resources (time, money and people) to make this change.  We are not headed this way right now, and the longer we stay on path, we risk damage to the base file and to our relationship with the other members of the Museum.

 

 Dean

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Ken Stallbaumer [mailto:kenstall@yahoo.com]
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 9:48 AM
To: Dean Rial
Cc: brian@museumsoftware.com
Subject: RE: file clean up

 

Dean

It was not my intention to change any files or their link to Authority files. The intention is  to establish Location Authority files when the present Authority files can be transferred to by by Bryan L. Gomez of PastPerfect. I am not experimenting with the files.  We set up some guide lines on May 3, 2007  as to what we should try to accomplish.  I am trying to follow these guide lines.  Some of us have  spent much time trying to correct files that were either covered  with reinstalling a backup over them which you say was not the case or these were deleted by hand.  Where we had reestablished the Location and other Authorities files with the computer set  on "Notifacation" and checked out each Authority to make sure there was not mear spelling errors or such. This took much time and it stopped the warning on the computer where you have the "Continue or Shutdown"  message. I have learned to work through that problem and it is what I would call a self correcting method. You do not need to reinstall a backup to correct.  I am wondering if Dean did write this e-mail as it  does not sound like him after the conversation we and the working relation we had established.  I have done nothing  more than when you (Dean) and Jim Copeland were here.

 

I will be forwarding this to PastPerfect also. I will also be forearding some e-mail you most likely have not seen which I told you about.

 

I have other things to do this morning and will not be at the Muesum on Saturday as I will be occupied Saturday with Family and will be Golfing. .

Dean Rial <albert.rial@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

Good Morning

 

I do not have time to work with you  on PP4 today, Saturday morning would be good.  Seems that we are not in agreement with what “clean up” of  the authority files” means.   Developing a new Location Identification system is not minor cleanup, because it will impact all of the base records, and barcode tags that have been completed to date.  In any case, we should not be using the PP4 program on the main computer to develop or check out how things work.  Please stop working and experimenting on the ‘official files” records of the museum.  Too many people have put too much work to risk corrupting these files.   We have to find a better way to get where you think we need to go. 

 

 

Dean Rial

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Ken Stallbaumer [mailto:kenstall@yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 10:17 PM
To: Dean Rial
Subject: Re: file clean up

 

Dean,

Building new Location address in the present  "Storage File" Authority will be hard to locate for me let alone others. This is and  it will not locate quickly by typing two letters. perhaps three letters but that is very difficult and I move only one fast finger on each hand. I was down there this afternoon and think we should get out or that file to build the new ones. . where we have everything now listed will make it very difficult however if we could change the name of "Rooms"  to  "Rooms Division" which might work, We would still have to have about 15 heading in present "Storage File" This will take some more thought and work on the subject.

 

Ken

 

 

Good morning,

 

Before we start making any more physical changes (to add or delete or change) to the authority files on the main computer, we must have a clear understanding as to what exact changes we need to make and know what implication that these changes will have on the existing records plus what the work load will be to update these records.  In addition, there is problem of coordinating the use of these new words with the record input people, and their training.   I will be in going to a Main Street meeting  in Marysville all day (Wednesday) and can not work on this with you today.   I am sure you can use a day off .

 

There is an Impact meeting between the Board and all of the Committee members at 8:00 on Thursday morning.  I am available to work on the authority files after this Impact meeting, if this will be a good time for you.  If not we can find another time that will work for both of us and not conflict with the data input schedule.  Also, Saturday morning looks good for me.

 

Let me know what works best for you,

 

Dean